Saturday, June 20, 2009

Classic Mustang - best engine/filter oil for 68 mustang v8 302

Hello folks,

can anybody give me a tip on which is the best oil and filter for my 68 mustang v8.

Thank you!


Re: best engine/filter oil for 68 mustang v8 302
Do you have the latest (July, 2009) issue of Mustang Monthly? They have an article on oil and claim that you DON'T want to use oil with an "SM" rating. The "SM" means it has no zinc which may ruin the internals of our vintage engines. Zinc fries catalytic convertors in newer cars.
If you can't find an oil without the "SM" label Mustang Monthly says to add an additive called ZDDPlus that will replace the zinc that the EPA has eliminated.
As far as a filter - what's the mater with Motorcraft (Ford) FL-1A? They are quality and were the originals on your engine.
Bill Krieger
hipogt@...
hipogt

Jun 20, 2009
6:06 pm
Re: best engine/filter oil for 68 mustang v8 302
While that article is correct on a number of counts it's strangely very inaccurate on at least one or two things. I even considered writing to MM to correct him.

SM rating does not mean NO ZINC it means lower. Most SM oils have from 600 to 900 PPM Zinc (and around the same Phosphorus) when chemical analysis is performed. ZDDP has been lowered for years and over many API spec changes not just SM.

ZDDP means Zinc and Phosphorus not just zinc (I wont bother typing out the full version I would probably misspell it).

He seemed to recommend oils that are all SM rated at this point. He didn't mention that some very good Oils do have more ZDDP... Mobil 1 High Mileage is excellent and is an older API spec rating, despite the name there's no reason not to run it in a new engine. Royal Purple has a couple specific "older vehicle" grades with older ratings that allow more ZDDP.

Aside from that his reasons are accurate if not thoroughly explained... ZDDP is a very good "EP" (extreme pressure) lubricant and EP lubrication is the MAIN thing keeping any metal on metal contact surfaces from being eaten up. ZDDP forms a sacrificial layer on cam lobes and lifter feet, that keeps the metal from eating it self into nubs.

It is also needed on timing chain teeth, distributor gears (any gear tooth surfaces, including rear ends Gear lube contains huge amounts of Phosphorus and Zinc) Oil pumps, valve stems, rocker and pushrod cups and valve tips... In short anywhere that metal meets metal and no pressurized oil wedge is forced through the area.

There's a lot more to it than this but in short you want an oil with around 1000ppm Zinc and Phosphorus and no SM oil has anywhere near that.

You need EVEN MORE if you run elevated spring pressures.
Simon
alhazsj

Jun 20, 2009
10:38 pm
Re: best engine/filter oil for 68 mustang v8 302
Hi guys, Thanks for the accurate explanation, What name brand and what product do you suggest? What you usually use for your classic car? Thanks a lot!...
domenico balivo
balivodomenico

Jun 20, 2009
11:42 pm
Re: best engine/filter oil for 68 mustang v8 302
... The FoMoCo filter is the best, or one of the best, on the market. As for oil, I use Castrol Synthetic 10-40W....
Paul Stephens
pauls1950

Jun 22, 2009
6:32 am
Re: best engine/filter oil for 68 mustang v8 302
The FoMoCo filter is the best, or one of the best, on the market. As for oil, I use Castrol Synthetic 10-40W.


My '71 M-code uses Castrol GTX 10W-40 dino oil and a K&N filter. Apparently with good results because after 2 months of mixed driving the oil is still clear and the color of honey.
MDG
shyohoj9

Jun 22, 2009
10:19 pm
Re: best engine/filter oil for 68 mustang v8 302
Of course, you can bypass the whole oil think by going the roller cam/rocker route on the next engine rebuild. I would also look at Amsoil. It's not the cheapest...along the lines of Royal Purple (which I've also used with great success).

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Dennis
deo1929

Jun 22, 2009
12:40 pm
Re: best engine/filter oil for 68 mustang v8 302
Thank you everybody!!! ... From: MDG Subject: Re: [Classic Mustang] best engine/filter oil for 68 mustang v8 302 To:...
domenico balivo
balivodomenico

Jun 23, 2009
12:08 am

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