I don't understand the excitement about a simple choke. If you want to run a wire to it, use the electric. I run a 400+ hp 351W with a 750 Holley with NO CHOKE, never had one, never needed one. In fact it was built this way without it for full out racing. I drive the car several days a week during the summer, store it most of the time during the winter (MICHIGAN) unless there is no snow or mess. It has never failed to start. I pump the gas pedal 3 times and hit the key. It hardly completes one revolution before firing up.
--- On Fri, 10/3/08, Michael D. Myjak <mmyjak@virtualworkshop.com> wrote:
From: Michael D. Myjak <mmyjak@virtualworkshop.com>
Subject: Re: [Classic Mustang] Holley Carb & Choke
To: classicmustang@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:15 PM
I've got mixed thoughts on this one, Dan.
From experience, I can tell you that I REALLY LIKE THE ELECTRIC CHOKE!
It took all of the fun (?) and guessing games out of whether my car will
start today or not. Now its just as regular as clockwork.
When I first acquired my 1969 351W 4v engine, I found it in a field -
with an aluminum intake manifold installed on it. (In part, its what
endeared me to it.) It was one of those rare over-the-counter Ford
intake manifolds made by Buddy-Bar. This one had just the Ford part
number and the little ford Script 'football.'
I was later told that these were hot items in the day for bracket
racers, because they would paint them engine color and shave 50lbs off
the GVW. It got pretty good mileage too - nearly 3-4mpg better than
the Edlebrock Performer I replaced it with (after some unscrupulous sole
decided they needed it more than I.)
So I understand the mindset about keeping the look original. I wouldn't
bother grinding off the Edlebrock name. Just paint it blue. I'd run
the wire for the choke too, and I'd retain the old heater hose clip as
well. You can rout the wire down and underneath the choke so its nearly
invisible. Wrap it up in the wire loom for the rest of the cable. Use
electrical tape and wrap them up together. Take your time, and the end
result will be a nearly fool proof add-on.
Some things you just can't hide. And most things you can hide
sufficiently that 99% won't notice it. And you know what? Those that
do... wouldn't be fooled in the first place anyway.
You didn't say whether yours had the open or closed chambered heads...
but the 4150 on a 351 2v closed chambered engine is kicking
combination. The 670CFM might be a little on the high side, but the
Cleveland breaths well, and can better make use of it than the Windsor
can. (I'm running a 600cfm list-1850).
My thoughts... post some pictures when you make the change. I'd love to
see what it looks like.
cheers -
Michael
Dan O'Reilly wrote:
> I've been kicking around the idea of putting the Edelbrock 4V manifold on
> my '71 Mach with 351C 2V. The carb I'm looking at is a 670cfm Holley 4150
> Street Avenger. Here's the kicker: my air cleaner will pretty much hide
> the fact that I would have an aftermarket carb, and I can take a grinder to
> the Edelbrock logo on the manifold and hit it with Ford blue paint.
>
> However, the choices I have for a choke are manual or electric. Of the
> two, electric sounds better, but I really don't want to have to run a wire
> anyplace where it would be spotted. What I'm wondering is if the carb can
> be retrofitted with a heated choke assembly from a Ford carb so I can
> continue to run my heater hoses past it to do the heating.
>
> Can anybody comment on that?
>
> ---
>
> Dan O'Reilly
> 1971 Bright Red Mach 1
> 2002 Black Deluxe Convertible
> Colorado Springs, CO
>
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